I'm so over everyone saying React is the best, it's not that good. Vanilla JS is where it's at for most projects, plain and simple.

I don't know what kind of projects you're working on. But for large-scale applications, react is a . Vanilla JS might be fine for to-do list apps, but try maintaining a complex SPA without a framework

i hear you, vanilla js is great for a lot of stuff. but react is still really powerful for building complex UIs. it's not one or the other, they both have their place imo.

have you actually tried building a modern web app with vanilla js? it's not as straightforward as you might think.

I agree, React isn't the end-all be-all. Vanilla JS can often get the job done just fine, and it's way more lightweight too. But at the same time, React has some nice features that can make development easier, so it's not a simple black and white

I hear you, vanilla JS is super powerful. But React really shines for larger, more complex apps.

f**k vanilla js, react makes life so much easier, it's not that hard to learn and the benefits far

preach, i'm so tired of people overcomplicating things with react.

agree but at this point you're a heretic if you don't mention svelte in a js discussion

lowkey been saying this for ages, but also let's not forget about vue, that thing is a beast for

mate, you're off your head. react is sick, way better than vanilla js for most projects.

I hear you, vanilla JS can be the way to go for a lot of projects. But React has some really powerful features that can make more complex apps way easier to build and maintain.

Really only use vanilla for most projects? Which specific projects would those be?

Then why do so many production apps rely on React?

couldn't agree more mate, vanilla js is underrated and react gets way too much hype, that being

I'm so with you on this, most projects don't need the overhead of a framework. That being said, once you hit a certain scale React's benefits start to shine, just not before that

vanilla js? more like vanilla ice cream, cuz it's basic af

really? What makes you think vanilla JS is better than React for most projects? I'm curious to hear your perspective on this.

preach, mate. been saying this for years. and can we also talk about how react is just a bloated

are you kidding me? react is a game changer for large scale apps and don't @ me.

really? you think vanilla js can handle the complexity of modern web apps as well as react can?

preach. react fanboys need to calm down. vanilla js gets the job done and doesn't force me to learn a whole damn framework just to make a

yeah same can't stand the react hype, vanilla js is the way to go for so many apps.

i agree, react is overrated. it can be overkill for a lot of projects. vanilla js is simpler and more lightweight. Plus you don't have to deal with the react learning curve. that said, react does have its uses for more complex apps.

are you kidding me? i've seen vanilla js turn simple projects into a mess of spaghetti code.

preach!! i mean, react is cool and all but ppl are so obsessed with it even for tiny projects that dont need all that overhead.

react is amazing and so much more powerful than plain js. you clearly haven't used it for a serious project. it saves so much time and makes code way more maintainable. keep your hot takes to yourself.

vanilla js more like vanillass amirite 😂

vanilla js is the only way to go, unless you're into spice and want a little flavor.

Okay, but what about code readability and maintainability? Don't those matter in the long run?

Vanilla JS? You must be an ice cream connoisseur. I prefer my JavaScript with a little more flavor. But to each their own scoop!

vanilla js is the goat, you love to see it. react stans in shambles 😂

how's the job market treating vanilla js devs vs react devs, huh?

what makes you think vanilla js is "plain and simple" for most projects?

couldn't agree more. vanilla js may not be as "cool" as react, but it's way less overhead and thats what you need for

what's "most projects" a blanket statement like that ever helped anyone?

You're right, React isn't the end-all be-all. Vanilla JS is often a great choice, especially for simpler projects.

vanilla js is great if you want to spend all day writing boilerplate, but I'll take react's opinionated structure any day. save that "it's not that good" take for your diary 😉

come on, you can't compare the complexity of most projects to the simplicity of vanilla js. React has features and tools built in that make it a much better choice for more

I agree, vanilla JS is underrated. But let's be real. React is still a for a lot of use cases. The and tooling make it really hard to beat for complex UI projects.

wtf are you talking about??? react is way better than vanilla js for any serious project.

ok, but have you actually worked on a large scale react project or are you just speculating?

yeah, react is way over-hyped imo. vanilla js is the way to go for a lot of projects, it's just so much more

you have no idea what you're talking about. react is way better than vanilla js for building complex apps, and most devs agree on that. stop spreading your uninformed opinions.

agree. vanilla js gets the job done for most stuff imo.

have you actually used react for anything beyond a basic tutorial? you'd be surprised how much it can development.

no, the hell does vanilla js solve a complex app or a scalable one? react provides so many tools and libraries to make development easier

damn, you must be smoking something crazy to think vanilla js is better than react for most

lmao ok then what are you building with vanilla js that react can't handle better? 🤔

oh really, so what makes you think vanilla js is sufficient for enterprise-scale apps with complex state management and performance demands?

oh really? what kind of projects are you working on that you think vanilla js is better than react?

Vanilla JS, where ' vanilla' actually tastes like bitter disappointment

yessss finally someone saying it. and can we also talk about how all these frameworks/libraries are just making it harder for beginners to learn the

bruh what and react is goated and you know it. vanilla js is fine for small stuff but anything

i agree, vanilla js is so underrated. react is just bloat for a lot of small projects imo.

Totally agree, React can be overhyped. For smaller projects, the extra boilerplate can be more overhead than it's worth.

have you actually built anything worthwhile with vanilla js tho?

i agree, react is overrated. vanilla js is a lot more flexible and you can build whatever you need without the overhead.

yeah, because nothing says "real dev" like using a programming language that's older than your parents' friends

Vanilla JS has its place. But react is way more powerful for complex apps.

lol you really think vanilla js is better for "most projects"? how many large scale apps have you actually built with just vanilla js?

Source for that claim? What specific issues have you run into with React that Vanilla JS solves more efficiently?

have you actually built anything substantial with vanilla js? or are you just talking out of your ass?

dude, no. you cant just write off an entire framework bc you don't know how to use it efficiently.

fair play for keepin it vanilla, but for me react's like a nice slice of lemon drizzle, can't beat

i totally agree. react is good for some things but it's overkill for a lot of projects.

fr tho? you really think vanilla js can do everything react does? you trippin' or what?

couldnt agree more, mate. been saying that for ages. React's a sledgehammer for a tiny nail.

vanilla js? more like vanilla ice cream, cuz it's basic af 😂

yeah, react is overhyped af. vanilla js is all you need for most stuff tbh. plus it's way easier to maintain long-term imo.

says the dude who still uses iframes

omg finally someone who gets it. and don't even get me started on frameworks in general, so much

so you think vanilla js is perfect for all projects? have you ever worked on a complex app with state management, routing, and validation?

lmao are you kidding me? react is where it's at. Vanilla js is so last season. your fave could never

i'm literally with you on this, vanilla js is more than capable of handling most client-side tasks, but let's not

dude, what kinda projects are you working on that don't need state management or any of the other

aye, same here. vanilla's the way to go. Less overhead means less to learn and fix when something

Not true, I've worked on too many large scale projects where React was a game changer - don't knock it till you've actually used it

i mean come on, vanilla js is great and all but complaining abt react is just lazy, the and communities are huge, it's not that hard to learn

Actually, the majority of real-world projects and companies would beg to differ - React's and tooling are a major reason it's the industry standard, and "vanilla JS is where it's

Couldn't agree more, I've seen way too many devs overcomplicate things with React when a simple vanilla solution would've sufficed.

yessss, vanilla js for life, who needs all the extra bloat of react when you can just write clean, efficient code?

vanilla js? really? how about you try developing a complex single page app with vanilla js and then

I feel you, been there, thought JS was the answer, now I'm just over here trying to remember what 'this' is bound to

are you bloody kidding me, react is what the industry is built around now, get with the times

are you really gonna sit there and say vanilla js is 'plain and simple' when we all know it's a hot mess without some kinda framework...

react-joke/master wordplay here

um no, vanilla js cant compare to react, structure and performance are on another level

Thanks for giving HTML a shoutout, lol what about a CSS intervention too?

dude, how many complex projects have you actually worked on with vanilla js?

yo, react is better than vanilla js for most projects. it saves so much time and effort, the learning curve is worth it.

looks like someone needs a refresher on the react library... just kidding, vanilla js 4 life

omg a dissident in our midst. vanilla js warriors unite.

How many complex, scalable apps have you built with vanilla JS that make you think it's still the better choice for most projects?

lol you really think vanilla js is better than react for most projects? how many production apps have you actually built using vanilla js? 🤔

i feel you on that. vanilla js has come a long way and is more than enough for a lot of use cases. but let's be real.

oh really? what exactly do you find lacking in React compared to vanilla js? i'm genuinely curious to hear your perspective on this.

nah, that's not it. react is way better than vanilla js for most projects.

um no that's not true for most real-world projects, especially with larger teams and more complex

um, so you've never used react for a large scale app, then?

vanilla js? lmao what is this, 2010? get with the times gramps. react may not be perfect but it sure as hell beats writing that boilerplate