yeah i get where they're coming from, but let's not forget the entire industry runs on java for now, going to take some big companies

how long do you think those "big companies" will stick with Java once some no-name startup starts eating their lunch with a Kotlin or Rust rewrite?

yeah, that's true. and even if they move away from java, it's gonna take years to fully transition.

agree but also, java's stability isn't just about industry reliance, it's also about security - you

yeah because nothing says 'innovation' like waiting for oracle to release a new framework