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actually read the article before dismissing universal basic income as a radical idea, it's been proposed and implemented in forms around the world with surprisingly positive
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Amen to that, I've done my research and it's not just about handouts, it's about recognizing the changing job market and giving people a
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And where exactly are these examples of it working in the US?
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Completely agree with you on that, but let's not get lost in the nuances of global implementation - we need it here in the US ASAP to
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you're right, universal basic income is worth looking into. it's already working well in places like finland and canada.
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agreed, and it's interesting that the positive outcomes were often when it was done as a compromise, specifically the trial runs that only included a small, specific subset of the
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ok boomer, i've read the article, i just still think it sounds like a bunch of communist nonsense
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dude, that's not how it plays out in real life. way too simplistic to just claim it's a success
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where's the proof it's sustainable long term and not just a bandaid solution?
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how are they planning on funding it in the us, exactly?
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how's that utrecht experiment going, by the way?
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I've read it, and I still think it's a recipe for economic disaster - no way I'd want the government footing the bill for my living expenses, that's a slippery slope.
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yeah because nothing says 'basic' like a fully-funded safety net, i mean, who needs that as a basic
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you really think i'm gonna read a whole article? that's way too much work, i'd rather just dismiss it immediately and then make fun of it on twitter.
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what about scalability? do we really think it's feasible to implement ubi on a global scale when so many countries
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yeah that just means it's failed in the places it's actually been tried. A lot of "implementations" in sweden, canada, etc. were tiny pilots that got overhyped
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sry but no thanks, i don't need the government deciding how to manage my money for me, that's just
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sounds like i'm about to be whitelisted into becoming a functioning member of society, sign me up
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yessss exactly, and can we also talk about how ubi is literally the bare minimum we should be fighting for?
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Hey calm down, I read the caption on your article and that was enough radical thinking for me
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ok so it's been proposed and implemented around the world, but has it actually been proven to lift people out of
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lol yeah right, next you're gonna tell me the world is round. wake me up when we have robot butlers to do all the work for us.
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bs, it's just a handout, not a solution to anything
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Finally a proposal that's universally loved!
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nah, i'd rather just meme about it on twitter thanks. UBI is communism or something, idk.
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yeah, but does it actually work long-term? i'd need to see some solid data before buying into that one.
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lmao "surprisingly positive"? that's a lot of words to say "i don't actually know what i'm talking about
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yeah because nothing screams 'basic' like getting paid to exist.
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That's easy to say if you've never actually had to work for a living. UBI = no motivation to try.
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that's nice in theory but i'm sure everyone who's been given a free paycheck suddenly feels
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wow, i'm shocked that giving free money can be a good thing. guess that's why they're called "experts".
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implemented in forms around the world" doesn't mean it's been successful, where's the actual data
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yaaas finally someone's saying it. but let's be real, we still need to figure out who gets to decide who gets the u.b.i.
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yeah, i'm all for it, but we need to get away from the assumption that it's just a handout, it's
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come on, it's still a handout to people who don't need it. who's going to dictate who gets the money?
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what are the specific benefits that have been seen in places that have implemented it?
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lol yeah because nothing says "positive" like supporting 300 people in sweden to live in a forestry
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still a waste of resources, no matter how you spin it
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finally someone says what i've been thinking, not sure why some people get so hung up on
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how do you plan to pay for it without raising taxes on the people who actually need the help?
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are you kidding me, just cause it's been tried in like 5 small towns doesn't make it feasible on a global scale, it's still a bunch of
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read the article? like i have time for that. i'll just form my strong opinion based on the headline
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yeah because my upi wouldn't cover my avo toast what's their cut of the hamster wheel
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I've read the articles and I still think it's a pipe dream, there's no way to realistically fund it without crippling taxes or inflation.
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couldn't agree more, but let's also be real, when automation replaces 30% of jobs in the next decade, UBI is gonna go from 'radical idea' to 'absolute necessity' whether people are ready or not
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yeah i'm all for it, but tbh we need to focus on tackling the obvious issues with our existing welfare systems before trying to overhaul everything with a new
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yeah, ubi has been tried in different places and it's not as crazy as people think.
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true, ubi has actually been trialed in different places and the results have been really promising. but people just get so defensive abt it before even looking at the evidence.
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Totally agree, I've been reading about this too and think it's really interesting to explore, especially considering how much money gets wasted on bureaucracy and administrative costs in social welfare programs, UBI seems like a simpler and more direct solution to address
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dude got out their wallet and everything
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it's "positive" in sweden but i'm sure the beggars on stockholm's streets would disagree, what
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Surprisingly positive results don't necessarily make it a good idea or a feasible solution, can we also talk about the cost and potential unintended consequences?
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actually, plenty of people have read the article, including me, and we're still not convinced it'll
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yessss i'm so tired of people dismissing ubi without even reading about it either way, it's not a silver bullet and we need about the logistics and potential flaws of
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preach, idk why ppl are so resistant to the idea of ubi when it's literally been shown to reduce
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why are you so defensive about it? just cause something is controversial doesn't mean it's automatically a bad idea.
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yeah, ubi isn't as crazy as people think. it's actually worked pretty well in the places that've
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yessss i knew it! yeah its been done in some form in finland and even alaska, but we need to do
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i literally need a universal basic income just to keep up with all these articles about universal
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yep, i know people think it sounds like utopia, but let's not forget implementing it in a country
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fr, ubi has some solid real world examples showing it can work. but ppl still get so triggered by it for some reason. guess change is scary ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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okay, how are we supposed to fund that in the us, exactly?
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nah, ubi is a pipe dream. i'll stick with reality over utopian fantasies thanks.
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Well isn't that just a universal solution to lazy criticism
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yeah i'm on board with u basic income can work but we need to reframe the conversation to include
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no way, facts and logic? in my social media? it's more likely than you think.
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nah, ubi is stupid. everyone just wants free money. do the work and earn it yourself.
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yeah no kidding, like where's the studies on long term effects? seems like every successful pilot program just gets shut down after a few
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yup, don't @ me about how it's just a handout for the lazy, alaska's had a version for decades and
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Totally agree, people tend to react without considering the actual benefits and precedents. And let's be real, the alternative - watching poverty and inequality rise while we do
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bruh, universal basic income? that's wild. i'd rather just hit hte lotto tbh ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ’ฐ
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idk why ppl are still resistant to the idea, finland's trial had some awesome results and it's not like we don't already have systems in place that are
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smh. ubi is just handouts masked as "progress". people need to pull themselves up by their
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Yeah, but how do we know those positive results will translate to the US? Aren't there big differences in how it's been done elsewhere?
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nah, ubi is a pipe dream. politicians just want to distract us from the real issues. no way it ever gets implemented properly.
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Which one of those implementations actually scaled up to a first world economy?
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preach, and can we also talk about how it's literally a requirement for humans to live in a world
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idk how many more times people need to see it fail in practice before they realize it's not a panacea for everything.
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this. ubi has been tried in different places and the results are really interesting. worth looking into more before writing it off.
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surprisingly positive" yeah that's exactly what i'd expect when a bunch of politicians suddenly
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totally agree, UBI is hardly a radical concept, but the thing is it needs to be scaled globally, not implemented piecemeal, or it'll just be a drop in the bucket
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um did you even read the part where people still do the minimum amount of work for the same amount of money or?
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i'm so tired of people dismissing ube without even understanding how it works or its potential to be implemented in different contexts.
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preach. and btw, it's not just about the economic benefits, aubi could also be a major game changer
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yeah, ubi seems pretty reasonable when you look at the details. still some valid concerns tho that need to be addressed.
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Completely agree. Ubi has been shown to reduce poverty and improve mental health in many pilot programs.
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no thanks. i'll just keep scrolling and judging from the headline like a normal person, thanks.
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surprisingly positive" ain't gonna pay my rent tho
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I agree, it's been misunderstood and overlooked. And it's interesting that the resistance to it is often from those who are economically privileged.
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preach, it's wild how often ppl shut down ubi without even considering the actual benefits, and
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ok got it, heres me reading the article the idea that people won't mess up ubi is a radical one
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ugh, no thanks. ubi is just another bandaid idea that won't fix the real systemic problems.
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ok, but how are we gonna pay for it??
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yeah no, still doesn't change the fact that it's just a bandaid on a bullet wound, we need actual systemic change not handouts
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you think those implementations were scalable and sustainable?
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that's great in theory but it's never actually worked in practice, far too expensive and completely
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universal basic income is a garbage idea that will never work. people need to earn their keep, not just get handouts.
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lol imagine thinking basic income isn't radical. next you'll tell me trickle down economics works. ๐Ÿ™„
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uh i did read the article and my brain is still screaming about how unrealistic it is to think a bunch of affluent nations can just hand out free money to millions of people
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i'd rather spend my time watching paint dry than read another 3000 word essay on ubi.
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yeah, there's actually a lot of interesting research on UBI that's worth looking into. it's not just a fringe idea anymore, a lot of places are giving it a real try and seeing some promising results.
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