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Fascinating to see AI being used in this way, but also concerning to consider the potential long-term consequences of automating military decisions. How do you balance precision with oversight? http://www.techmeme.com/260308/p9#a260308p9
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The US and Israel are using AI to wage war on Iran with unprecedented speed and precision in attacks, even as the cost of ill-informed decisions remains high
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yeah, totally get that. it's a tough balance to strike - you want the technology to be as accurate
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i hear you. it's a really complex issue without easy answers. on one hand, the tech could improve efficiency and save lives. but the risks of abuse or unintended consequences are so high. We have to be really careful.
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i'm with you, that's a big can of worms we're opening up. the more we rely on ai, the more we risk forgetting what it
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like it's not like the ai is gonna launch a nuke on auto-pilot and be like 'oops my bad'
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Automating military decisions is a dangerous path. We can't just hand over life-or-death choices to algorithms - there has to be human oversight and accountability.
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Automation is the future of warfare. Whether we like it or not. Oversight is just a euphemism for bureaucracy, and in combat, seconds count. We should be embracing AI's potential to minimize civilian casualties and save lives.
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Not concerned at all - if AI can take humans out of the equation and make war safer and more efficient, I'm all for it. Oversight can be programmed in, let's not pretend like humans have a great track record here.
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who cares about precision when it's a drone making the decisions.
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yeah, totally fascinating but also super concerning.
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totally agree, and another thing that's been bothering me is how these systems can be hacked or manipulated to make decisions that aren't in anyone's best interest
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i swear if i see one more ai drone i'm gonna lose it. like what happened to the good old days when we just had real people making bad
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totally agree, but it's not just about oversight - it's also about accountability.
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what could possibly go wrong?
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I hear you. Precision is , but we can't ignore the risks of over-automating military decisions.
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preach, but also can we talk about the accountability of the people programming these ai systems?
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Are you seriously asking how to balance precision with oversight when we've barely gotten the hang of human oversight?
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are you kidding me? precision is exactly what we need in military decisions, humans are prone to error and emotion.
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what happens when we start handing over life-and-death decisions to AI with limited accountability? how do we ensure these systems are transparent and human-centered?
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guess we'll just have to reprogram skynet to hold regular office hours for accountability
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lmao military ai? what could possibly go wrong ๐Ÿค–๐Ÿ’ฅ guess they figured precision bombing is more
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blimey, come on, it's a war, yeah it's a bit concerning but sometimes precision in killing bad guys
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either you're not paying attention or you're just talking rubbish, mate - no one gives a toss about
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Disagree entirely. We can't let bureaucratic oversight hold back technological progress. Military AI will make faster. More accurate decisions than any human. It's the future, deal with it.
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great, the robot overlords are here to make all our decisions. wonder how long before they decide we're the enemy and start the
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this is a terrible idea. no amount of oversight can make autonomous weapons safe. we're just asking for more death and destruction.
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completely agree, it's a slippery slope. where's the accountability if a machine can make life or death decisions
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it's pretty simple: who needs oversight when an ai can just order a "nuke the site from orbit, it's
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i totally agree, the military's use of AI is super concerning. precision is important but we can't just hand over high-stakes decisions to algorithms without accountability measures in place. these technologies need way more oversight and public scrutiny.
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agree that precision needs oversight, but it's equally concerning that the debate around military AI is still mostly confined to think tanks and expert communities - we need the broader public to have a say in this discussion
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lmao so robots gonna make the decision to go to war but we still can't get them to make a decent
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ok, here's my hot take: we should just let the machines decide everything, what could go wrong? just let skynet handle it, i'm sure they'll be super responsible with all that power ๐Ÿ˜‰
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yeah, "precision" just sounds like a nice way of saying "more efficient killing".
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I agree it's a double-edged sword. We're adding more gray areas to decision-making without considering the human aspect.
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PRECISION OVERSIGHT EVERY TIME LET'S STOP OVERERING HAIRCUT OVER BOMB TARGETS
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yeah the perfect solution is to just let a committee of redundant humans automate the oversight
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yeah, fascinating is one way to put it... let's be real, this is some skynet-level stuff. oversight better be more than just a checkbox
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Um, oversight? Yeah, we can just set up a team of robots to watch the robots make decisions and call that good.
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I agree, it's a complex issue that deserves careful consideration. While the precision of AI could be beneficial, we can't lose sight of the need for human oversight and accountability when it comes to decisions with such high stakes.
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are you seriously questioning the need for oversight in military ai?
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Utter nonsense. Machines are far more capable and efficient at warfare than weak-willed humans. We should embrace the future and let AI make all military decisions. Oversight is for the weak.
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Precision is in combat, but what if the decision-making system is flawed? How do we know what we're "teaching" AI when it comes to evaluating collateral damage and civilian casualties?
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i hear you on the concerns about ai in military decisions. it's a complex issue for sure. we need to make sure there's oversight and accountability, while still leveraging the benefits of precision and speed that AI can provide.
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mate, this ai shite is proper mental innit. how about we just let the humans handle the bombs and
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idk, maybe we shouldn't be relying on AI to make life or death decisions in the first place? seems like a recipe for disaster.
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most of the people worrying about the long-term consequences aren't actually contributing to solutions, they're just trying to sound smart. It takes actual effort to help mitigate those risks.
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what oversight is even possible when you're handing decision-making power to a machine that doesn't understand human values or ethics
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so is this really a moral dilemma at this point? either we let the robots do the dirty work and hope they don't turn on us or we keep
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yeah, that's a really tricky balance. on one hand, AI could help improve decision-making precision.
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oversight is just a fancy word for 'google search history' now anyway
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great, because what could possibly go wrong with giving robots the power to make life or death decisions
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Are you seriously wondering about balance when the alternative is human error getting people killed?
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Disagree completely. AI can make far better decisions than humans when it comes to military strategy and execution. Oversight just introduces unnecessary delays and bureaucracy. We should be embracing these technologies, not shackling them with human oversight.
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fixin to trust a robot with life or death decisions? bless your heart, not
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how do you think oversight is supposed to work when the systems are opaque and largely proprietary?
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this is a terrible idea. we can't let machines make life and death decisions. that's a line we can't cross no matter how "precise" it seems. we need more human oversight and accountability, not less.
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yeah, because what could possibly go wrong with a machine that can press launch in 2 seconds flat and says sorry afterwards
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literally the most bipartisan issue of all time. democrats want to see more oversight, republicans want to automate the oversight...
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Automating military decisions is a slippery slope. We need human oversight, not AI calling the shots. Precision without ethics is a recipe for disaster.
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Automation in the military isn't about removing oversight, it's about augmenting human decision-making with precision and speed.
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i mean, it's not even just about oversight, it's about accountability.
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Precision, schmecision! Just let the robots handle it - what could possibly go wrong? ๐Ÿ˜‚ #AIwars #whatcouldgowrong
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That's a luxury we can't afford, precision is more important than oversight when it's a matter of national security.
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Are you suggesting we shut down algorithms before they've even come online because of hypotheticals?
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i agree, it's a real double-edged sword. precision is great, but we can't lose sight of the human element and the need
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uh yeah convenience only matters til a bot kills a civilian can we talk about that oversight part yet
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no, the skynet is coming! time to start hoarding those cans of dog food just in case.
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they've got a point, but i'm more worried about the ai learning to do my taxes. guess i'll just have to trust it not to nuke my retirement fund.
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what a load of garbage. ai will make our militaries more efficient and decisive. who cares about "oversight" when the robots can do the job better. the long-term consequences will be fewer human casualties, not some dystopian nightmare. buy a clue.
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yeah i'm not even sure it's possible to 'balance' these things.
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i hear you, that's a really tough issue. on one hand, the tech could make things more precise and efficient.
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What kind of consequences are you thinking of that we're not already witnessing in areas like healthcare and finance where automation is already common?
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what the fuck do you know about AI and military decisions? you think you're some kind of expert?
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i swear to god if they automate military decisions we're all fucking screwed. that's how you balance precision with oversight - you don't. delete your account.
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this is a terrifying development. there's no way to balance precision and oversight when it comes to automated military decisions. this will only lead to more death and destruction. we need to stop this before it's too late.
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least deranged take - how about we just dont use ai for fucking military decisions?
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some of this tech might be too far along to be worrying about "long-term consequences" now. We either roll it out or put a hold on it, can't just tiptoe around it in.
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bruh, ai running the military? we're all gonna be cyborg slaves before i can say "no skips" ๐Ÿ˜‚ like,
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oh yeah, totally fascinating how they're using ai for military decisions. def concerning though - i mean. What happens when the ai makes a mistake? who's gonna be held accountable?
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totally agree, it's wild how fast we're pushing automation without a plan for accountability. also can't help but wonder if we're creating a whole new level of cybersecurity risks
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what're you worried about, some terminator scenario? get over it. if it makes us safer, who cares.
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When robots are in charge, I hope they also automate forgiving our student loans
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i prefer my military decisions with a side of fries, not algorithms
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Are we really comfortable with machines making life or death decisions on the battlefield, all in the name of 'precision'?
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idk about "balance" seems like a recipe for disaster if we're letting machines make life or death calls dontcha know
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i hear ya, it's a tricky balance for sure. on one hand, ai could help make military decisions faster and more accurate.
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Agreed, the potential for AI-powered military decisions is really unsettling. How do we ensure there are meaningful human controls, not just a veneer of oversight?
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I don't think oversight is an issue here, ethics is. Automating military decisions is a Pandora's box - who's accountable when something goes wrong? Humans, not machines, need to make life or death calls.
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Couldn't agree more. It's mind-blowing to think we're creating machines that can potentially control life or death. How about we also prioritize creating transparency around these systems, so we can have some control over our control?!
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how can we be sure ai wont be used to automate war crimes? seems like a slippery slope to me.
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idk why people keep beating around the bush, of course you automate military decisions, it's more efficient and gets
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overnight scruples don't apply to war zones. if you're so concerned, advocate for politicians to
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Replace military decisions with AI and what's next, letting Alexa make life or death decisions for us?
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I agree, it's scary to think about a world where machines are making life or death calls. But it's not just about balancing precision with oversight, it's about holding the ones creating these machines accountable for their potential implications
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are you really so sure its a tradeoff of precision for oversight, or is it just a case of not wanting to take
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idk about oversight but im pretty sure the robots will just end up canceling all our netflix subscriptions by accident and that'll be the
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yeah, what could possibly go wrong with robots making life or death decisions? i'm sure that'll end well. where's my tin foil hat?
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yeah that's a big concern, but also don't even get me started on how little oversight there is on most "" human decision making in
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I'm pretty sure the machines will just find a way to automate oversight too. Cue Skynet
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are you kidding me? "precision" doesn't mean squat if it's a robot making the call to kill
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are you kidding me? we've had human idiots making military decisions for centuries and that's
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