tired of seeing artists being asked to do free work "for exposure" like no, exposure doesn't pay my damn bills, pay me

exposure doesn't pay the bills? guess i'll just start accepting payment in likes and shares then 🤷‍♀️

irrelevant to the convo but seeing a g so i said tell 'em that free exposure like free rent or free

you're telling me... been doing open source dev for years and people expect me to do it all for the "community" meanwhile my rent isn't paying itself.

deadass, couldn't agree more. and it's wild how they think exposure is only valuable to the artist.

what's the point of promoting your brand if you're not willing to compensate the people helping to build it?

aren't we all just a bunch of starving artists in your eyes, then? when does it become "worth it" for you to pay us?

do brands ask for "exposure" when hiring devs and designers or is that a favor reserved for artists only?

Similarly, I'm tired of seeing devs being asked to fix bugs "for the experience" like no, experience doesn't keep my lights on, pay me

amen to that. artists should be paid upfront for their work, not expected to donate their skills just to be noticed.

exposure's not paying the rent, but a good food truck near my studio is totally worth it

do these people ask their doctors to work for "exposure" too?

exposure is just the new 'we can't afford to pay you

idk, isn't a small chance at a big break worth taking a shot? lots of ppl start out that way and are grateful for the opportunity

yeah, totally agree. like, what am i supposed to do, eat exposure for dinner? pay my rent with exposure and nah, show me the money.

i don't think that's a realistic expectation for someone just starting out, wasn't everyone once in the same boat,

lol yeah, exposure is great and all but i can't feed my family with it. i'll happily do free work in exchange for a nice shiny rock or maybe a fruit basket.

what are you even talking about? exposure is how you build a portfolio and get clients.

can anyone else relate to this? why do people think they can just take advantage of others' skills without compensating them for their time and talent?

What's the problem? You should be grateful for the opportunity to share your work, even if it's not paid.

exposure doesn't pay the rent. But you know what does? cold, hard cash. pay your artists!

lmao what a joke. exposure is worth a ton, cry me a river.

exposure doesn't pay the bills?? the exposure is the payment you ungrateful brat. do some work for free and be grateful for the opportunity

preach, and let's be real, 'exposure' never leads to actual opportunities, just more free work and

finally someone who gets it! my mate's always saying "exposure's gonna make me a star and i can be

exposure? more like ex-poor-sure amirite

exactly, what makes you think they'd miraculously magically make a career out of one collaboration,

same, now i'm starting to think exposure is just the wifi password at the coffeeshop where i'm slowly dying from not being paid

btw who asked bob dylan to play at teh open mic night for 'clout

finally someone who gets it, but it's even worse when they expect us to be okay with it and pretend it's a good thing

if exposure could pay bills, street performers would be millionaires

completely agree about the free work thing. but at the same time, how many of you are actually buying art and supporting the people who

don't you know that exposure is the most valuable currency these days? how else are you supposed to get paid?

this ^^^ fr. the "exposure" bs is so played out and if you want me to do work, just pay up front.

tell me you've never hustled for a dream and had to put in unpaid work upfront.

same energy here, just trying to pay my rent on freelance hours instead of actual dollars

exposure is worthless, art is a skill that deserves proper compensation. if you can't pay, don't ask artists to work for free. simple as that.

tho, how is it that it's okay for companies to take advantage of free labor but not okay for artists to take advantage of a brewery or restaurant not charging them for a few beers or a free meal?

did they actually think that "exposure" was gonna pay my rent? smh

right? like, if you're a business and you can't afford to pay artists, you shouldn't be asking them to work for free. exposure is great and all, but i've got rent to pay, ya know?

exposure? did they mean "pay me in clout"? good luck buying food with that!

does anyone ever actually get more paid work from doing free work for "exposure"??

Not all artists are in it for the money, some actually value the exposure and networking opportunities that come with collaborating or doing free work. It's not a one-size-fits-all situation, let people make their own choices about what they want to do with their time and skills.

not every artist can demand to be paid, some people are just trying to get their foot in the door and build a portfolio.

how many artists do you think can keep going without a steady income because of "exposure" before they just give up the creative thing altogether?

for real, exposure is the worst. pay artists what they're worth, not with "experience" or

omg who cares about "exposure"? like its not a real thing? free work gets your name out there. Suck it up

do the ppl asking for free work also expect their landlords, grocery stores, and utility companies to just give them stuff for "exposure" too?

how's that different from other creative fields though? writers aren't asked to write for exposure and we all know that artwork isn't free

do you actually think anyone is impressed by "exposure"? get real, artists deserve to be paid for their work.

exposure is the only thing my landlord accepts as rent money, so i guess i'm good 🤷‍♂️

totally agree, and can we also add that "exposure" is literally just code for "i want to use your

exposure is the new currency, didn't you know? it's like getting paid in exposure-bucks. someone should start a new startup to make that happen, lol

so who's offering these "exposure" deals and not tbh paying anyone? a guy in a brooklyn coffee shop or a major ad agency? asking for a friend.

exactly! exposure is not currency. we need to pay artists their fair share for the time and effort they put into their work.

you really think exposure doesn't pay the bills? how else are you supposed to build a following?

do ppl still really think that getting their logo on someone's instagram story is gonna make up for the fact they're not getting paid?

exposure can actually lead to real paying gigs, you're not owed money for every little thing you do, get over yourself

are they the ones offering "exposure" or just going along with the outrage?

you really think exposure doesnt pay the bills? what world are you living in smh

for real, exposure is like telling your landlord "i'll give you a shoutout on insta instead of rent this month

idk man, if you're not getting exposure, how are you gonna get paid in the first place?

exactly, who's to say we value art at zero when we expect it to somehow magically flip to thousands on some big art auction?

idk, exposure can be huge for early career artists. if i was starting out i'd do a free gig to get my name out there.

low-key screaming in agreement with this. But also can we please start valuing the time and effort that goes into creating that "exposure"?

same energy when recruiters ask me to do a 5 hour coding test "to see if i'm a good fit" like no, a good fit is when you pay me for my time

same thing happens in the tech industry, people expect you to contribute to open source projects for free "for the community" like no, my kid's school doesn't accept pull requests as payment

can they just point me to the "exposure museum" that's a thing, right?

what about customers who want to beta-test free software "for the greater good" or "to give back to the community"? don't we all deserve to be paid or at least offered a gesture of gratitude?

yeah for real, when are people gonna realize that "exposure" is just a fancy word for "free labor"? how about we just pay artists what they're worth instead?

agreed, exposure is bullshit. if you want good work, pay people what they're worth.

okay but if exposure covered living expenses i'd actually be living in a mansion made of validation

How many folks here are actually willing to pay for work and not just throw around the word "hustle" or " networking" in an attempt to make unpaid labor sound legitimate?

are you kidding me, trying to turn art into a 9-5, that's not how it works, this whole "for exposure" thing is the worst excuse to skip out

fr tho, like exposure is cool and all but i gotta eat. can't pay my rent with "clout" or whatever. pay artists what they're worth. Stop being cheap assholes.

nah, exposure is everything and if you're good, the work will come.

come on, exposure is important. how else will people know about your work? stop being so greedy. Just do some free stuff once in a while.

yoooo, finally someone said what needed sayin. people always like "exposure is worth smth" but i'd

fking preach, and it's not just artists, i've had people ask me to design stuff for free too, like no, i'm not a

thats stupid. if you dont want free work then dont do it. people can ask for whatever they want, you can just say no.

exposure is great and all but i can't pay rent with it. i'll take a pizza instead.

yes exactly! exposure is such a scam, people need to stop trying to take advantage of artists.

preach!! and even if it did pay the bills, exposure isn't a guarantee just because some big org or

yeah, "exposure" is just code for "we don't want to pay you" but it's not just the money that matters, it's the value placed on labor and creative work overall - when we start demanding fair

dang, someone's got a case of the mondays! i feel you on that.

exposure? that's great, i can pay my landlord in insta likes

you think the artists are being reasonable here or what?

if your art is so valuable, how come no one's willing to pay for it?

sorry but if you're not willing to take on some free gigs to get your foot in the door. Then you're not gonna make it in this industry.

when are ppl gonna stop thinking that artists are just gonna magically make a living off of good

same with "following your passion" my passion wants to eat too

yeah, exposure doesn't even get me out of therapy, i still need actual money

same energy, just replace "exposure" with "enlightenment" and you've got a university course fee

nah, that's bs and exposure is the best payment any artist can get. exposure leads to real paying gigs. stop being so entitled and be grateful for the opportunities.

exactly who are you asking for payment from, the fans, the industry execs who profited off our content for years?

does this only apply to artists or can we extend this logic to all the devs working on protocols for "the greater good

done with that too, been saying it for ages... but also, can we ask: what's the difference between "exposure" and a hypothetical

Guess that's what they mean by "exposure fatigure

same, it's funny how people still think sharing their work on my website or social media is

What makes you think it's okay to expect us to accept your "value" for free just because you've got a Instagram account?

tell me you haven't worked for free thinking 'exposure' would magically lead to paid gigs