the class is such a joke, nothing ever gets done. means testing is just an excuse for the rich to screw over the poor. healthcare pls, this system is a mess.

Means testing's been around since the beginning of welfare and it's not going away anytime soon. If we start handouts without accountability we'll create even more dependency.

Dude, means testing is in place to make sure everyone contributes who can, that's how we pay for our system.

We just settled for socialism because the only system we'd pay for was healthcare, doesn't that get anyone thinking about how far we've fallen?

totally with you, I've seen people in court who've been paying into the system their whole lives and yet are still getting screwed because of some loophole or myth about income limits.

Ever tried running for office or organizing a rally to actually create change instead of just complaining about it?

If you think means testing is so flawed, what's your alternative that distributes limited resources fairly and efficiently?

you clearly have a chip on your shoulder. if you actually put in the effort. You'd get more done. the system isn't perfect but that's not an excuse to just complain.

couldn't agree more. and don't even get me started on how the politicians all have the best healthcare and it's just 'debated' for the rest

you're way off base there. means testing is fair and prevents waste. the system works just fine. Quit your complaining. if you want healthcare, get a job.

aren't we just scapegoating the "rich" when we know half the admin was born into money and gets to skate through life on mom and dad's dime?

imagine thinking means testing is just an excuse for the rich to screw over the poor.

That's not entirely true. Many people use the system and get assistance because they need it, not because they're trying to scam it. It's more complex than a simple "rich vs poor" mentality.

sounds like someone's economic inequality lecture was woke

means testing isn't about the rich screwing over the poor, it's about ensuring those who need help most get it - starting with families making 3-4x the median income is unrealistic.

sounds like you're having a tough time in that class. while i can understand the frustration, i don't think painting everyone with the same brush is fair or productive.

deadass, means testing just means they're measuring how much of our sanity they can take before we actually get any help

though, what's your solution to a means-tested system that's been working for decades?

same energy as the staff room when the coffee machine is broken

I'm with you on that, it's always baffled me how such a system can exist when we're ly paying for a band-aid when we should be fighting for actual change.

seriously, what's the point of means testing? just makes everything more bureaucratic and inconsistent. meanwhile people are still dying from treatable illnesses. universal healthcare isn't that hard, every other developed country managed it

glad to see you're getting a good education in complainology

what's the class then if not a means to gauge who actually needs the help?

ok but have you reached out to your reps about it or are you just venting on the internet

yeah cuz means testing somehow makes teh rich think "aha, we can finally scam some healthcr with confidence

lol 'healthcare pls' like anyone's gonna hand out free healthcare with a set of steak knives

yeah, the whole system is rigged. those rich fucks don't care about anyone but themselves.

Preach, I'm so over the empty promises. But let's not forget. The biggest reason we can't get healthcare right is because of the stranglehold lobbying groups have on our politicians. Follow the money

Yeah, totally agree. The class seems like a total waste of time. And the healthcare system is a mess - it's just the rich trying to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else. We really need to fix this, it's unacceptable.

how does simply saying that help anything tho

I hear you. the class is a total waste of time. and you're so right, means testing is just a way for the rich to stay on top.

Sounds like someone needs a refresher on how parliament works, or maybe just a deeper dive into the actual policy they're ranting about

what makes you think you know more about means testing than the people who actually designed it?

means testing is actually a fairness thing - it doesn't force anyone to pay, it makes people who can afford it chip in

preach. and can we also talk about how it's even more ridiculous when ppl who have never had to actually navigate this system get to make

yeah, agree. the whole system is rigged to benefit the wealthy. we need real reform, not half-measures. universal healthcare would be a good start, but it's just the tip of the iceberg.

fair play, never thought i'd see someone call out the existing system and not get censored mate,

means testing isn't a joke, it's just economics. if everyone gets everything for free, there's no

oh c'mon now, that's just a bunch of crap. the class is what you make of it and if you don't like it, don't take it.

tell me you dont think a universal healthcare system would just become a giant bureaucratic

what system are you even living in? means testing is literally there to help the people who need it

damn, thats a spicy take. the rich screwing over the poor?

fr, that class is a whole circus. they need to just cancel it and refund us all.

couldn't agree more, but we need more than just chants of "healthcare for all" - we need to be willing to rip the whole thing down and rebuild something that actually serves the people it's meant for

You think the means testing people have been warning about for decades is the actual problem and not, say, the decades of partisan gridlock and lobbyists writing the laws?

nah that's bullshit. means testing is important to make sure benefits go to those who need it most.

yeah we get it, reform is hard, but at least the profs are technically doing their job - kinda like

Means testing just makes sure those who actually need help can get it, prevents waste. It's a shame people who have the ability to afford coverage just want a free ride.

god, finally someone who understands that means testing is literally just a codeword for "we don't wanna pay for the plebes

you really think nothing gets done? what would you do differently?

Your oversimplification of the means testing debate is tiresome. It's a complex issue that you clearly haven't taken the time to understand.

what specifically do you propose we do to "do something"?

Sounds like you need a nap and a snickers. Or maybe just a hug. Either way, let's focus on solutions, not just complaints.

dude means testing is literally to ensure aid goes to those who actually need it, not just lazy people playing the system.

I couldn't disagree more - means testing is just common sense, why should everyone pay for services they don't need?

dude, someone call theilerininical concerns hotline. we've got a burner account diagnosing the entire system from their parents' basement

idk what's more messed up, the system or the fact that your caps lock is on

Actually, means testing helps ensure those who can afford it don't crowd out those who need it most. Free healthcare would just make everyone a number in an endless line.

you're entitled to your opinion but I disagree. sounds like you just want handouts. maybe if you actually put in some effort instead of complaining, you'd get somewhere. the real world isn't free rides and participation trophies.

totally agree, means testing is just a bandaid on a bullet wound.

have you ever actually read the medicare means testing proposals that have been put forward?

means testing is a safety net, people without 6 figures need a little more accountability for their bandwidth on the public dime, it's not a handout, it's a call for smart resource allocation

Can you name a single policy that's been implemented since you attended school that actually does help students in need, or are you still waiting for results?

come on man, means testing is a necessary measure so others aren't taken advantage of u think it's

You think that's bad, have you actually looked into the proposed policies and their projected impacts? Or are you just ranting based on a headline?

Preach. Means testing is a bureaucratic nightmare that benefits no one. But let's not forget the middle class gets screwed over just as much as the poor, stuck with rising premiums and stagnant wages. When does universal healthcare become a no-brainer?

you've come up with a solution huh? what's your actual plan to pay for healthcare beyond just 'means testing is evil'?

Couldn't agree more. But let's be real, it's not just the rich screwing over the poor, it's the politicians in their pockets too.

amen to that. it's all about control and no one is gonna get a free ride, but what's sick is that the "less fortunate" are being used as a bargaining

you got a better idea? 'cause i'm all ears.

tell me you don't think throwing more money at our existing healthcare system is gonna magically

have you actually read the papers on how means testing affects poverty rates or are you just regurgitating reddit talking points?

tell me about it. teh rich just keep getting richer while the rest of us struggle. and don't even get me started on the healthcare system.

true. the whole thing is just a scam to keep us down. gotta keep fighting tho. We won't give up!

what exactly do you mean by "nothing ever gets done"? are you saying the class is ineffective or that the system itself is broken?

then why are you still participating in a system that rewards wealth over well-being?

don't you think it's oversimplifying things to say that people with money are just out to screw

yeah, because nothing says 'healthcare' like a system that's designed to make you feel like you're

yeah, that system is a total mess. they really need to simplify the whole process and focus on actually helping people instead of just giving handouts to the well-connected. tired of all the bureaucracy and empty promises.

yeah, it's a mess, but have you actually reached out to your reps about changing it or is twitter just where the activism ends?

what are you doing to change it?

Sounds like you've had a long day, my friend. Maybe we can trade jokes over a beer sometime - Lord knows we could all use a laugh in this mess of a system. 😅

yeah, not just means testing. have we seriously not evolved our school funding system in, like, 100 years?

uh, if we're gonna "take down" the system, can you at least come up with a viable alternative and not just spout generic leftist buzzwords?

class action lawsuit waiting to happen... or just another means tested opportunity to pay off student loans

nah that's bullshit, means testing is important to make sure resources go where they're needed most.

idk how people expect anything to change when our politicians are more worried about lining their own pockets than actual policy.

I agree with the idea that the system is a mess, but labelling the entire class as ineffective and motives of others as purely greedy oversimplifies the issue.

yes totally, means testing is just a way for the rich to avoid paying their fair share.

Tbh if I wanted to hear complaints about the system I'd have stayed in my college poli sci lecture

If you think the system is a mess, maybe take a harder look at the entitlement mentality instead of blaming those who actually pay into the

means testing isn't an excuse. It's a necessary evil when resources are limited. someone has to decide who gets helped, and it can't all be free.

But if means testing went away, wouldn't the system just become another game where rich people find ways to game the system?

that's a pretty oversimplified take on means testing - it's not that straightforward, some people can actually afford to contribute a bit

tbh exactly, it's all about prioritizing profits over people. and let's not forget about the environmental crisis

said the person who's never had to deal with the reality of actually implementing policy.

nobody involved in means testing has ever had to wait 6 months for a sweater in the oven to dry

tbh the entire system is stacked against us. and can we also talk about the outrageous cost of prescriptions? like, how are we supposed to afford meds when we can barely cover rent

who do you think is going to pay for all this free healthcare?

are you saying this from experience or just jumping on a bandwagon with a clear solution but no apparent real understanding of the systemic issues?

careful, you're gonna give the fat cats a heart attack with all that truth